- Joined
- Apr 4, 2002
- Location
- Menlo Park, Ca.
- Moto(s)
- Keep me rocking life
- Name
- Budman
- BARF perks
- AMA Life Member #203453
2021
2021
When you have a forum that has lasted for 20 years you feel some of the real life pain.
We lost one of our most important and historical members DataDan and a fond one for many..Marci. I lost one of my best friends too. Godspeed Wob.
For some of us our hearts are still broken for fellow member R3DS!X when he posted about his Dad being missing
Love ya man.. hang in.
We have seen things get better this year, but still face challenges thanks to the Virus.
A bunch of us started the year by following Dakar and Ricky Brabec brought home the chrome with a runner up spot. After his win in 2020 the man is rocking!
The 2022 Thread is up and I will no doubt be following along!
We said goodbye to Racing Legend Dick Mann. His legacy lives on in the AMA HOF and in the classic movie On Any Sunday. And just after Christmas Earl Hayden passed away. The Monarch of the Hayden Family celebrated the moto life.
Some shared some riding:
SFMCjohn, Lowerside,jroberts247, norcalkid and NoneMoreBlack said fug it and ride!
There has been a little adventure too:
greenhornet, stratslingr77 and 1962siia
[YOUTUBE]bsHkuvmjAvI[/YOUTUBE]
And what better way to beat the pandemic, by playing dirty:
StoneyBARF 13 and StoneyBARF 14
We got a couple of Rallies in!
Hoho Mid Summer Magic and Rydther Rallies.
Racing is still in many of our hearts and I read the race reports always.
GoGo always delivers and threw down another classic to enjoy Chasing the Front.
Check the AFM for others and give them a well done!
Moto Activism has been a big part of our history. Thanks as always to Cycle Gear for supporting it!
We continue to battle for the right to ride and to ride what we want.
Red Sticker is one on bikes and the fight to keep Pismo Beach open is still on my radar.
Enchanter joined me on the SHSP Motorcycle Safety Committee is getting his toes wet in the world of Goverment.
AMA and I have two actions moving forward at this time.
1. Add lanesplitting information and awareness to the DMV Handbook.
2. Add CHP awareness media reach out for the same.
A third to require a link to a phone APP to autonomous vehicles for those that wish to be recognized. moto / bicycle / pedestrian. That got shot down, but there is some legislative actions that are trending towards something. Long time away I fear, but I reconize that it is the wild west out there right now and not much data is required to be provided to the State Office of Traffic Safety in terms of near misses or issues.
On the CMSP Committee side I have two actions that are still in the game.
1. Ongoing Online training tool for all moto riders.
2. Additional funding for the media reach outs that would be year long vs just May.
More fun stuff:
I handed out some thanks in the form of BARFies. Here is a full list of winners over the years:
2007
Mrs. Budman, Enchanter, Valgar, Jrace, Beemerchef, USARMWORKER, Psychochik (Tina), Selong, Hawkgirl, Pitho, Yanabanana, Baptistro
2014
Mrs. Budman, Butch, Carries an axe, CTS488, DataDan, DucatiHoney, Enchanter, EjGlows, Flying_hun, Gixxergirl1000, Holeshot, Horsepower, Khan, NoGall, Seric, Kevin714, Racergirl, RRR70, Spec-ECU, Valgar, Woodschick
2017
Mrs Budman, Flying_hun, DucatiHoney, Butch, Kazman, Cyclesuzy, Chill, two wheel tramp, DogBoy (now Map8), Holeshot, Bassem, Shouldnthave, Buford, Raymond h2002, DBenj, OaklandF4i, Boney, Littlebeast, Woodchick, Rebekahlynn, RRR70, Oaklandish, SuperMike, Dreg350, Nucking Futs, Auntiebling, Cinncinatus
2021
Mrs Budman, Sweeping Winger, Bzwrthy, SFMCjohn, Enchanter, DR SLO, bikeama, Gary856, GB500guy, thedub, Bojangle, Yakoo752, DucatiHoney, DaveT319, tuxumino, Map8, 1962siia, Kazman, kelsodeez, Frame Maker, Butch, two wheel tramp, Chill, tzrider, ThumperX, DataDan
AND: ThumperX made another sticker. The Ride Motorcycles / Eat Ice Cream has a special flavor to those of us that experience the Magic of the Hoho Rally.
Chris Weir had a Meme Contest and Roundboy took the honors.
We still have some moto racers checking in.
My thread from 2002 is still going. Maybe because it is a stickie.
Guess I should take a moment and update the list in the OP. If you are Racer or X Racer please.. check in!
We saw a bounce on a thread from 2005. That happens once in a while and it shows how BARF has changed.
The Men: How to please a woman, orally. shows what we were and also how we have changed with the world. It is proved by this quote
Formula 1 fans still discuss the premier racing series in the world here too as they have for a while. Quite the season.
Historic Threads: These are some of the most viewed on barf. Some are in the specific year post, but I added some here. A diverse range of topics that shows the community in the community.
2002
Hooli said "Hey.. funny pics here 3.45M laughs provided.
I wanted to get to know my fellow barfers and them to get to know me. So I asked Did you play me?
2003
We raised money for Polio in our Ride for Life.
2004
Do You Mountain Bike? Almost 800K views.
For the AFM's 50th Anniversary I threw out The AFM is motorcycle history..great pics!
2005
What are you thinking thread has more than 8 million views.. a lot of thinking over the last 16 years. What were you thinking Melissa?
Do you road bike? 613K views.
After a good ride you could always use a Cold Shower... a classic by Feanor.
However Johndicezx9 touched my special spot with Old Race Photo's. Awesome memories.
Liam shared a dream with us and it was good. *Liam's Wild Ride*
Personality of the week: Roundboy 08/01/05 was a hoot always and Roundboy took his lumps on this one.
2006
This wild ride was pretty damn cool too. Wannabe's wild ride - Bonneville
And it is always cool to know how long!? (have all u guys/girls been riding for?)
anti-motorcyclist morning show raised the heat on barf for sure and we had to ask people to cool the violent threats. The story made national headlines.. Woody's sidekick Whitemenace eventually joined barf and tried to mend some fences.
re: new riders & 600's. kinda long by Karbon started some late year banter worth touching on for Newbie riders.
oliver showed some passion with the I wanna race! thread. I met him at a Peets a few years later by random chance and we chatted life for a minute.
2007
Camera's are a thing here too. Digital SLRs? and the discussion lasted 8 years and 223K checked in to see what up.
Note: Andy.. as in SBR Andy was an early member of BARF and posted ride photo's often. His skill of riding and taking pictures is amazing. He got the great shot of me on my TL1000S way back when that is still a fav of mine!
Mick-e suggested we needed a laugh and Motivational Posters might be the way to make that happen and 1.66M views made us motivated.
Wayneb got me motivated when he shared his photo skils in Old USGP Photos
2008
Jakemate said BARF Homebrewing. should be a thing! 218K views agreed. Our own Lunchbox took it to reality and started a business. He brings the good stuff out for special rides, rallies etc.
aciurczak Cal24 2008 - BARF style took us along for a long days ride.
Pacifisticuffs and Uhmeebuh took us on a longer ride ride across the US
We had some fun with Politics Political photoshop contest..THE VOTE before politics got so crazy we had to put it in the closet.
BARF showed its compassion when Kids Christmas gift stolen - Kawi KX65 and rallied to get the kids back on the Christmas track.
2009
Cars that make your jaw drop 1.5M views
Silversvs asked for input on moto safety Your input needed California Motorcycle Safety. 13 years later I am still at it.
2010
The Photos of your bike on location thread started in 2010 is still going with over a million views. The thread earned Gary856 a BARFie and he is on location more than anyone ever!!!
post a *PIC* of your latest purchase (can be anything as long as you purchased it) Almost 3.5 M views
GaryJ gave us Real World "Rain Riding Survival Skills/Techniques Checklist"... it is still raining so always good to look at and if you are more into snuggling with your pooch on a rainy day there is NorCalAthlete's Post your dog pics!. 1.45M smiles.
We all felt the fear when Surj postedBARFer, Ozymandias thrown off Folsom St exit, lands on Clementina/1st. Get well soon!. Glad getting well was the outcome!
Check out the Amber Alert signs today!!!! made us happy.
An Woodschick shared Thankgiving with us Lost On The Coast For Thanksgiving one of her classics.
2011
Comic strips,and Troll Faces, etc. (NSFW images must be linked & labelled) 3.8M views
Awesome Videos almost 600K views and some awesome videos.
revnort said WTF and 1.45M views says a few others did too.!
We took some time to rate CA's best roads and the Hun would know! BARF's #1 Road in California and teh 9 won out
New Rider Basics 101 has been a sticky in the Newbie forum for a decade.
2012
So who rode in today? one for the hearty souls who ride year round. 56K views shows that some of us do. Not me
Choppers, Bobbers, Trackers, and Customs...
Music Post it Up!
Woodschick got us nostalgic with Old AFM photos 1989 and 1990 (or there about)
I asked you to throw down your AMA number below your avatar to show that BARF supports the AMA.
AMA members check in - why you should join. I still feel they are the best option for a few bucks to support your right to ride!
2013
We shared some pride thanks to EjGlows SF Pride 2013 - Official Picture Thread. And the What have you made lately thread had 210K views sharing the world of making stuff.
The Faith in Humanity Thread only 200K views so I guess there is not much faith but I like it.
However... there if faith in food witnessed by BBQ food prOn battle 328K views.
We also wanted to share The most challenging motorcycle roads?
Silversvs share the good news [ulr=https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421696]FINALLY - Lane Sharing is supported in CA[/url]. Even though it got walked back it was the beginning of getting Lanesharing officially accepted.
2014
San Francisco Motorcycle Club - Est. 1904 SFMCjohn made this a Vintage Cafe staple. 120K views
Horsepower rocked us with the BARF "MEAT UP!!" ~ COOKOFF COMPETITION and Barf Olympics too! (Feb 23, 2014). One of the best barf events ever!
2015
HappyHighwayman thought more that just BBQ should be discussed. Non-BBQ Food pRon turned out to be popular and food remains a solid community topic. 386K views would say so.
2016
In the beginning of the year I represented BARF Thanks to you....! NHTSA Summit - Insight into safety on the roadways. I still recall calling out Vision Zero for not including Moto's in their graphics and plans. That led to an amazing first ever chance to work with them. The applause from others at the Summit and thumbs up from the AMA and Total Control felt good.
We asked for your support. AB 51 - Time to support it!!. It was controversial in way for us as many felt we did not need no stinking law. In the end we had a victory dance at the DNA Lounge AB 51 Celebration Oct. 8th 1-4pm. Even Assemblymember Quirk at a beer with us! Good memories of working with Surj and Nick Haris from the AMA on the bill. Others as well.
If you need tips about seen MotoGP in Austin you can find some here COTA 16 - let it begin.. Good times!
2017
FreeRyde chose a solid riding route to chat about Mines and Mt Hamilton Roads: The Official Thread. Almost 200K views says it is an awesome ride.
The Home Grower's Thread shows almost 200K views
2019
Time to get Fit thread Almost 12.5 M views. Getting fit is obviously important!
And we have seen Electric bikes being chatted about a lot more. The Electric Motorcycle Thread now has over 190K views.
396 has kept the drag racing in our world for 3 years with the 2019 / 2020 / 2021 Wednesday Night Drags Sonoma thread. Dude rocks it too!
2020
Sometimes it is topical for just a year. Johndicezx9 threw this down 2021 New Bikes and Updates and 13K views shows we like bikes.
More:
BARF member Disco did some awesome moto paintings. I bought a few. Well more than a few. They adorn my office. Love his work.
He still offers prints of some including the commission piece of Nicky Hayden we made for the Hayden Foundation Fundraiser. This year I had three personal paintings commissioned of my racing days one. A future legacy gift for the 3 kids that went and watched Dad do his thing. The one from 1989 in Portland is below.
Given the down time I took a moment to share Rally memories in my phone. I keep many there so I can relive the awesome moments whenever I need to turn a bummer day into a good one.
In the end we have some planning to do for the Rallies and for me personally a long ride inspired by this documentary.
We do need some new Rally Master Blood to join TWT, Chill and I. Mostly fill in for me..
As noted I am planning a big personal ride and doing Hawthorne will be a challenge for me.
Tech (the BARF Sucks).
We should get with the program.. we found some tech crapola at the end of 2021, barf slow, double posts, etc.
We are close to the Software change thanks to Insyder, but have had help save us from issues by Valgar and Ceric too. We started the upgrade a while ago. Beta testing has been done and a server upgrade being sought to make sure we don't lose a minute of our history. If this was a business it would have been done a year ago. Since it is a passion and I am far from a geek... it has been a frustrating journey. I hope to see some patience when we flip the switch.
As always.. thank you for sharing your life with us.
2021
When you have a forum that has lasted for 20 years you feel some of the real life pain.
We lost one of our most important and historical members DataDan and a fond one for many..Marci. I lost one of my best friends too. Godspeed Wob.
For some of us our hearts are still broken for fellow member R3DS!X when he posted about his Dad being missing
Love ya man.. hang in.
We have seen things get better this year, but still face challenges thanks to the Virus.
A bunch of us started the year by following Dakar and Ricky Brabec brought home the chrome with a runner up spot. After his win in 2020 the man is rocking!
The 2022 Thread is up and I will no doubt be following along!
We said goodbye to Racing Legend Dick Mann. His legacy lives on in the AMA HOF and in the classic movie On Any Sunday. And just after Christmas Earl Hayden passed away. The Monarch of the Hayden Family celebrated the moto life.
Some shared some riding:
SFMCjohn, Lowerside,jroberts247, norcalkid and NoneMoreBlack said fug it and ride!
There has been a little adventure too:
greenhornet, stratslingr77 and 1962siia
[YOUTUBE]bsHkuvmjAvI[/YOUTUBE]
And what better way to beat the pandemic, by playing dirty:
StoneyBARF 13 and StoneyBARF 14
We got a couple of Rallies in!
Hoho Mid Summer Magic and Rydther Rallies.
Racing is still in many of our hearts and I read the race reports always.
GoGo always delivers and threw down another classic to enjoy Chasing the Front.
Check the AFM for others and give them a well done!
Moto Activism has been a big part of our history. Thanks as always to Cycle Gear for supporting it!
We continue to battle for the right to ride and to ride what we want.
Red Sticker is one on bikes and the fight to keep Pismo Beach open is still on my radar.
Enchanter joined me on the SHSP Motorcycle Safety Committee is getting his toes wet in the world of Goverment.
AMA and I have two actions moving forward at this time.
1. Add lanesplitting information and awareness to the DMV Handbook.
2. Add CHP awareness media reach out for the same.
A third to require a link to a phone APP to autonomous vehicles for those that wish to be recognized. moto / bicycle / pedestrian. That got shot down, but there is some legislative actions that are trending towards something. Long time away I fear, but I reconize that it is the wild west out there right now and not much data is required to be provided to the State Office of Traffic Safety in terms of near misses or issues.
On the CMSP Committee side I have two actions that are still in the game.
1. Ongoing Online training tool for all moto riders.
2. Additional funding for the media reach outs that would be year long vs just May.
More fun stuff:
I handed out some thanks in the form of BARFies. Here is a full list of winners over the years:
2007
Mrs. Budman, Enchanter, Valgar, Jrace, Beemerchef, USARMWORKER, Psychochik (Tina), Selong, Hawkgirl, Pitho, Yanabanana, Baptistro
2014
Mrs. Budman, Butch, Carries an axe, CTS488, DataDan, DucatiHoney, Enchanter, EjGlows, Flying_hun, Gixxergirl1000, Holeshot, Horsepower, Khan, NoGall, Seric, Kevin714, Racergirl, RRR70, Spec-ECU, Valgar, Woodschick
2017
Mrs Budman, Flying_hun, DucatiHoney, Butch, Kazman, Cyclesuzy, Chill, two wheel tramp, DogBoy (now Map8), Holeshot, Bassem, Shouldnthave, Buford, Raymond h2002, DBenj, OaklandF4i, Boney, Littlebeast, Woodchick, Rebekahlynn, RRR70, Oaklandish, SuperMike, Dreg350, Nucking Futs, Auntiebling, Cinncinatus
2021
Mrs Budman, Sweeping Winger, Bzwrthy, SFMCjohn, Enchanter, DR SLO, bikeama, Gary856, GB500guy, thedub, Bojangle, Yakoo752, DucatiHoney, DaveT319, tuxumino, Map8, 1962siia, Kazman, kelsodeez, Frame Maker, Butch, two wheel tramp, Chill, tzrider, ThumperX, DataDan
AND: ThumperX made another sticker. The Ride Motorcycles / Eat Ice Cream has a special flavor to those of us that experience the Magic of the Hoho Rally.
Chris Weir had a Meme Contest and Roundboy took the honors.
We still have some moto racers checking in.
My thread from 2002 is still going. Maybe because it is a stickie.
Guess I should take a moment and update the list in the OP. If you are Racer or X Racer please.. check in!We saw a bounce on a thread from 2005. That happens once in a while and it shows how BARF has changed.
The Men: How to please a woman, orally. shows what we were and also how we have changed with the world. It is proved by this quote
Formula 1 fans still discuss the premier racing series in the world here too as they have for a while. Quite the season.
Historic Threads: These are some of the most viewed on barf. Some are in the specific year post, but I added some here. A diverse range of topics that shows the community in the community.
2002
Hooli said "Hey.. funny pics here 3.45M laughs provided.
I wanted to get to know my fellow barfers and them to get to know me. So I asked Did you play me?
2003
We raised money for Polio in our Ride for Life.
2004
Do You Mountain Bike? Almost 800K views.
For the AFM's 50th Anniversary I threw out The AFM is motorcycle history..great pics!
2005
What are you thinking thread has more than 8 million views.. a lot of thinking over the last 16 years. What were you thinking Melissa?
Do you road bike? 613K views.
After a good ride you could always use a Cold Shower... a classic by Feanor.
However Johndicezx9 touched my special spot with Old Race Photo's. Awesome memories.
Liam shared a dream with us and it was good. *Liam's Wild Ride*
Personality of the week: Roundboy 08/01/05 was a hoot always and Roundboy took his lumps on this one.
2006
This wild ride was pretty damn cool too. Wannabe's wild ride - Bonneville
And it is always cool to know how long!? (have all u guys/girls been riding for?)
anti-motorcyclist morning show raised the heat on barf for sure and we had to ask people to cool the violent threats. The story made national headlines.. Woody's sidekick Whitemenace eventually joined barf and tried to mend some fences.
re: new riders & 600's. kinda long by Karbon started some late year banter worth touching on for Newbie riders.
oliver showed some passion with the I wanna race! thread. I met him at a Peets a few years later by random chance and we chatted life for a minute.
2007
Camera's are a thing here too. Digital SLRs? and the discussion lasted 8 years and 223K checked in to see what up.
Note: Andy.. as in SBR Andy was an early member of BARF and posted ride photo's often. His skill of riding and taking pictures is amazing. He got the great shot of me on my TL1000S way back when that is still a fav of mine!
Mick-e suggested we needed a laugh and Motivational Posters might be the way to make that happen and 1.66M views made us motivated.
Wayneb got me motivated when he shared his photo skils in Old USGP Photos
2008
Jakemate said BARF Homebrewing. should be a thing!
218K views agreed. Our own Lunchbox took it to reality and started a business. He brings the good stuff out for special rides, rallies etc. aciurczak Cal24 2008 - BARF style took us along for a long days ride.
Pacifisticuffs and Uhmeebuh took us on a longer ride ride across the US
We had some fun with Politics Political photoshop contest..THE VOTE before politics got so crazy we had to put it in the closet.
BARF showed its compassion when Kids Christmas gift stolen - Kawi KX65 and rallied to get the kids back on the Christmas track.
2009
Cars that make your jaw drop 1.5M views
Silversvs asked for input on moto safety Your input needed California Motorcycle Safety. 13 years later I am still at it.
2010
The Photos of your bike on location thread started in 2010 is still going with over a million views. The thread earned Gary856 a BARFie and he is on location more than anyone ever!!!
post a *PIC* of your latest purchase (can be anything as long as you purchased it) Almost 3.5 M views
GaryJ gave us Real World "Rain Riding Survival Skills/Techniques Checklist"... it is still raining so always good to look at and if you are more into snuggling with your pooch on a rainy day there is NorCalAthlete's Post your dog pics!. 1.45M smiles.
We all felt the fear when Surj postedBARFer, Ozymandias thrown off Folsom St exit, lands on Clementina/1st. Get well soon!. Glad getting well was the outcome!
Check out the Amber Alert signs today!!!! made us happy.
An Woodschick shared Thankgiving with us Lost On The Coast For Thanksgiving one of her classics.
2011
Comic strips,and Troll Faces, etc. (NSFW images must be linked & labelled) 3.8M views
Awesome Videos almost 600K views and some awesome videos.
revnort said WTF and 1.45M views says a few others did too.!
We took some time to rate CA's best roads and the Hun would know! BARF's #1 Road in California and teh 9 won out
New Rider Basics 101 has been a sticky in the Newbie forum for a decade.
2012
So who rode in today? one for the hearty souls who ride year round. 56K views shows that some of us do. Not me
Choppers, Bobbers, Trackers, and Customs...
Music Post it Up!
Woodschick got us nostalgic with Old AFM photos 1989 and 1990 (or there about)
I asked you to throw down your AMA number below your avatar to show that BARF supports the AMA.
AMA members check in - why you should join. I still feel they are the best option for a few bucks to support your right to ride!
2013
We shared some pride thanks to EjGlows SF Pride 2013 - Official Picture Thread. And the What have you made lately thread had 210K views sharing the world of making stuff.
The Faith in Humanity Thread only 200K views so I guess there is not much faith
but I like it.However... there if faith in food witnessed by BBQ food prOn battle 328K views.
We also wanted to share The most challenging motorcycle roads?
Silversvs share the good news [ulr=https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421696]FINALLY - Lane Sharing is supported in CA[/url]. Even though it got walked back it was the beginning of getting Lanesharing officially accepted.
2014
San Francisco Motorcycle Club - Est. 1904 SFMCjohn made this a Vintage Cafe staple. 120K views
Horsepower rocked us with the BARF "MEAT UP!!" ~ COOKOFF COMPETITION and Barf Olympics too! (Feb 23, 2014). One of the best barf events ever!
2015
HappyHighwayman thought more that just BBQ should be discussed. Non-BBQ Food pRon turned out to be popular and food remains a solid community topic. 386K views would say so.
2016
In the beginning of the year I represented BARF Thanks to you....! NHTSA Summit - Insight into safety on the roadways. I still recall calling out Vision Zero for not including Moto's in their graphics and plans. That led to an amazing first ever chance to work with them. The applause from others at the Summit and thumbs up from the AMA and Total Control felt good.
We asked for your support. AB 51 - Time to support it!!. It was controversial in way for us as many felt we did not need no stinking law. In the end we had a victory dance at the DNA Lounge AB 51 Celebration Oct. 8th 1-4pm. Even Assemblymember Quirk at a beer with us! Good memories of working with Surj and Nick Haris from the AMA on the bill. Others as well.
If you need tips about seen MotoGP in Austin you can find some here COTA 16 - let it begin.. Good times!
2017
FreeRyde chose a solid riding route to chat about Mines and Mt Hamilton Roads: The Official Thread. Almost 200K views says it is an awesome ride.
The Home Grower's Thread shows almost 200K views
2019
Time to get Fit thread Almost 12.5 M views. Getting fit is obviously important!
And we have seen Electric bikes being chatted about a lot more. The Electric Motorcycle Thread now has over 190K views.
396 has kept the drag racing in our world for 3 years with the 2019 / 2020 / 2021 Wednesday Night Drags Sonoma thread. Dude rocks it too!
2020
Sometimes it is topical for just a year. Johndicezx9 threw this down 2021 New Bikes and Updates and 13K views shows we like bikes.
More:
BARF member Disco did some awesome moto paintings. I bought a few. Well more than a few. They adorn my office. Love his work.
He still offers prints of some including the commission piece of Nicky Hayden we made for the Hayden Foundation Fundraiser. This year I had three personal paintings commissioned of my racing days one. A future legacy gift for the 3 kids that went and watched Dad do his thing. The one from 1989 in Portland is below.
Given the down time I took a moment to share Rally memories in my phone. I keep many there so I can relive the awesome moments whenever I need to turn a bummer day into a good one.
In the end we have some planning to do for the Rallies and for me personally a long ride inspired by this documentary.
We do need some new Rally Master Blood to join TWT, Chill and I. Mostly fill in for me..
As noted I am planning a big personal ride and doing Hawthorne will be a challenge for me.
Tech (the BARF Sucks).
We should get with the program.. we found some tech crapola at the end of 2021, barf slow, double posts, etc.
We are close to the Software change thanks to Insyder, but have had help save us from issues by Valgar and Ceric too. We started the upgrade a while ago. Beta testing has been done and a server upgrade being sought to make sure we don't lose a minute of our history. If this was a business it would have been done a year ago. Since it is a passion and I am far from a geek... it has been a frustrating journey. I hope to see some patience when we flip the switch. As always.. thank you for sharing your life with us.
in the sink! 
