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NorCalBusa

NorCalBusa

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The California DMV and CHP are launching a joint pilot program to make California roads safer by expediting the removal of drivers caught speeding over 100 mph.

The program, Forwarded Actions for Speeding Ticket or FAST, will automatically refer these drivers to the DMV Driver Safety Branch. From there, the incident along with the driver’s record will be reviewed to determine whether immediate action — such as suspending or revoking the driver’s license — is warranted.

While some drivers may have their driving privileges revoked or suspended through the legal system, that process can be slow and lengthy. However, the new DMV-CHP pilot is designed to act more quickly, reflecting research showing that the most effective deterrent is swift and certain consequences, according to the agencies.

“Under Governor Newsom’s leadership, California is taking bold, data-driven action to confront reckless speeding head-on,” California Transportation Secretary Toks Omishakin said in a statement. “The FAST pilot reflects our commitment to innovation, accountability and prevention —using real-time information to intervene before dangerous driving turns deadly. This is about protecting lives and delivering on our shared responsibility to make our roads safer for everyone.”

According to CHP, officers issue citations to about 1,600 individuals for driving at speeds of 100 mph or higher each month. In 2024, CHP issued more than 18,000 of these citations.

Driving at higher speeds reduces reaction time and increases the severity of crashes. Speeding-related crashes account for approximately one-third of all traffic-related deaths on California roads in the last decade, according to the DMV.
 
I am shocked at the # of tickets issued :wow

I don't get the math though unless those 1600 have multiple offenses.
 
Actually 1500 a month assuming 18K and 12 months.

Assuming 1600 individuals that is over 11 tickets each.

Like I said the math seems off.
 
I’m all for it.
I don’t have the need for speed so there’s that.
98 is probably still fun in some instances.
 
As long as it's a real person lighting me up I will pull over and take any lumps.

What scares me is them allowing Flock cameras to 'calculate' an 'average speed' between two points and start ticketing based on that 'real-time data'.
 
I think the difference could be CHP typically doesn't write citations for Reckless Driving, a Misdemeanor, instead they write it for "Over 65" as an Infraction. They check a box on line items indicating Infraction or Misdemeanor, used for DUI and other Misdemeanors. My guess is the burden of proof is far lower for an "over 65" cite than Reckless Driving, so they don't spend hours writing a report and in court. The Infraction is far less time. (I defer to anyone who knows better- got any CHP on here?)
 
Das MotorRad said:
As long as it's a real person lighting me up I will pull over and take any lumps.

What scares me is them allowing Flock cameras to 'calculate' an 'average speed' between two points and start ticketing based on that 'real-time data'.
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Saw an article yesterday where some guy (in his parent's basement no doubt) hacked in Flock's camera videos and plastered video & images on the intrawebnet. Ruh-row.
 
budman said:
Actually 1500 a month assuming 18K and 12 months.

Assuming 1600 individuals that is over 11 tickets each.

Like I said the math seems off.
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It's not 1,600 total individuals. It's 1,600 individuals each month. I'd assume they are mostly entirely different people each month, though probably a few get 2 or more throughout the year.
 
Das MotorRad said:
As long as it's a real person lighting me up I will pull over and take any lumps.

What scares me is them allowing Flock cameras to 'calculate' an 'average speed' between two points and start ticketing based on that 'real-time data'.
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That would be the definition of a speed trap. Flock cameras are not set up to do that, and California law would prohibit that, if they could set up the technology.

There are trial speed enforcement cameras currently in a few select cities and locations throughout the state, but they aren't like you described.
 
NorCalBusa said:
I think the difference could be CHP typically doesn't write citations for Reckless Driving, a Misdemeanor, instead they write it for "Over 65" as an Infraction. They check a box on line items indicating Infraction or Misdemeanor, used for DUI and other Misdemeanors. My guess is the burden of proof is far lower for an "over 65" cite than Reckless Driving, so they don't spend hours writing a report and in court. The Infraction is far less time. (I defer to anyone who knows better- got any CHP on here?)
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Driving over 65 mph on a freeway designed for a safe speed up to 65 mph isn't reckless driving. It's just a speed Infraction. One could make a case for reckless driving for a speeder driving 70 mph on a city street with a speed limit of 30 mph, but it sure wouldn't be reckless on a freeway.
 
NorCalBusa said:
Saw an article yesterday where some guy (in his parent's basement no doubt) hacked in Flock's camera videos and plastered video & images on the intrawebnet. Ruh-row.
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Flock is only still images. Wouldn't be surprised if someone hacked it though.

Ok, I take this back after watching the video link. I wasn't aware that Flock was into the people monitoring AI video surveillance game. I was only familiar with their license plate reader cameras.

Video surveillance in general has exploded over the last couple decades, probably exponentially. AI and other tech is only going to keep making privacy concerns more problematic, unless we have the right laws in place.
 
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bojangle said:
Driving over 65 mph on a freeway designed for a safe speed up to 65 mph isn't reckless driving. It's just a speed Infraction. One could make a case for reckless driving for a speeder driving 70 mph on a city street with a speed limit of 30 mph, but it sure wouldn't be reckless on a freeway.
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Been that way for decades Dave, as you know. What I've seen that is different is the CHP citations for "Exceeding 65" written for triple digit speeds and as infractions. Could be a distinction without a difference, but is more common.
 
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