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2026 F1 thread, when season starts there will be spoilers.

I stopped watching NASCAR when it became about making deals and alliances during the race.
It felt too much like survivor (which came after I stopped watching) became, more about politics and less about car and driver.
 
Climber said:
I stopped watching NASCAR when it became about making deals and alliances during the race.
It felt too much like survivor (which came after I stopped watching) became, more about politics and less about car and driver.
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I was heavy into NASCAR from about 1992 to 2001. I worked at Sears Point during NASCAR (and NHRA and later Indy) at the concessions and hospitality. Got to meet a ton of drivers from 1994 to 1999.

NASCAR kind of died for me after Dale Sr passed away. I'd watch the occasional race for a few years after that. Once Jr joined Kendrick (good for him because he got PAID) I pretty much tuned out.

I'd try too look here and there. Car of the Future was a disaster. But I'm glad to see they went to EFI, single lug nut and sequential gearbox now.

There are parts of NASCAR I will still defend. Not many people can cope with a 180mph traffic jam on a superspeed way. Or hustle those cars around a road course. It's a different skill set and race craft. Those drivers are talented for sure and don't discount them because they are turning left.

Remember when Jeff Gordon drove Montoya's Williams-BMW FW24 F1 car? He was 1.3 to 3.5 seconds slower than F1 race pace at Indy's road course. Imagine that with sufficient time, Gordon would have closed that gap and would have been competitive in F1 he had chosen to leave NASCAR.

FYI...I tried watching the Daytona 500 this year...I just wasn't into it. Stage racing is meh. But again, the last few laps are always entertaining at Daytona when they are bunched up like that.
 
Soooooo.....how about those races in the Middle East, eh? Think they are going to happen?
 
I find NASCAR road races way more exciting and fun to watch than the round-d-rounds. The Winston 500's and the Budweiser 400's at Riverside were pretty epic and my favorite road coarse for the big cars.

On a brighter note: Season #8 - Drive to Survive is on Netflix.
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And digging into that "proverbial box in the garage" a few treasures...
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Soooo...Aston Martin my line up, do a few laps and withdraw as they lack spare parts from Honda.
What a cluster fuck.
 
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I heard Aston won’t even finish the first lap.

The whole situation is a ridiculous clusterfuck for F1 organizations. The engine is mounted in a way that’s vibrating the battery enough to break it. The vibrations are more extreme than expected and than were simulated cuz reasons. Aston burned most of their spares in testing. Honda also had issues with vibration in their other debuts - missing it before testing and causing terrible reliability.

Everyone is wondering how they’ll even practice or qualify.
 
There’s hints that Newey’s demands started the snowball down this hill.

Honda seems fully committed to doing the same thing they did last time they entered F1. And rem, this Honda is a new Honda, not the team that in-part was hired by RBP.
 
Did they start from scratch?
I recall hearing that RBR was going to buy their engine and contiunue evolving it, but that may be ancient history given the Ford designation.
 
Meanwhile. COTA was a decent two races.
 
Climber said:
Did they start from scratch?
I recall hearing that RBR was going to buy their engine and contiunue evolving it, but that may be ancient history given the Ford designation.
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Who? Define “from scratch”?

I’d guess the new regs are different enough that not a single part was reused from the old engines. The lower combustion ratio, the removal of the MGU-H, and the increased impact of the MGU-K are HUGE changes that require a very different engine.

IIRC RBP never took over the Honda development or even the maintenance of the engines. The dev freeze kinda made that unnecessary.

Also IIRC, RBP hired some people from Honda. I doubt there were allowed to use Honda IP for their engine, but you get a lot of knowledge w the right people.

Given how late Ford came to the party with these engines, I doubt it’s much of a technical partnership. I don’t think Ford has any experience with a jet ignition engine, nor much with this level of hybrid. Prob more a branding deal for now. Maybe we’ll hear more about it later.
 
stangmx13 said:
Who? Define “from scratch”?

I’d guess the new regs are different enough that not a single part was reused from the old engines. The lower combustion ratio, the removal of the MGU-H, and the increased impact of the MGU-K are HUGE changes that require a very different engine.

IIRC RBP never took over the Honda development or even the maintenance of the engines. The dev freeze kinda made that unnecessary.

Also IIRC, RBP hired some people from Honda. I doubt there were allowed to use Honda IP for their engine, but you get a lot of knowledge w the right people.

Given how late Ford came to the party with these engines, I doubt it’s much of a technical partnership. I don’t think Ford has any experience with a jet ignition engine, nor much with this level of hybrid. Prob more a branding deal for now. Maybe we’ll hear more about it later.
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As an enginerr, I can tell you that you rarely start with nothing, there is always a starting point.
Certainly there would be very few parts carried over to the new engine, but the accumulated knowledge gives you a big leg up when you have a good portion of the old team involved.

By scratch, I was referring to a new team being formed that didn't have key members of the previous team.
 
By that definition, I doubt there’s any org that is from scratch in F1. RBPT’s Tech Director is from Merc HPP. Even the Caddy Team Principal ran Marussia. So many of the current directors and high level staff in the paddock are from other teams.
 
There are many shades of gray, If the Honda team had most of the senior engineers from their RB engine development, that would be a running start. But if they had only half of that, it would have a learning curve that would take time. If they had less than a quarter, it would be a large learning curve.
 
Was checking my DVR as usual each year to make sure it was being recorded and of course it wasn't as it is exclusively on Apple TV now which I do have.

I went to Apple TV and it even has an F1 tab all set up but also the current Drive To Survive which is a far better watch on Apple than Netflix because it is in 4k HDR10/Dolby Vision and in full Dolby Atmos Sound which I have but I'm not sure anyone else on BARF has.

Dolby Atmos is a spatial audio technology that creates immersive, 3D sound by placing audio objects anywhere in a three-dimensional space, including overhead, moving beyond traditional surround sound channels. In my case I have 5 ear level speakers, a subwoofer and 4 Atmos speakers mounted above and behind the couch aimed down at the listening position.
 
I mentioned this before...If you already have Apple TV then you can create a FREE login on F1TV Premium (using your Apple TV information). Then you download the F1TV App to your device, login and now you have all the F1TV stuff for free. I did this over the weekend. F1TV has most of the races going back to the 1980s along with some other stuff. Also, I do not think F2 will be shown on Apple TV (I might be wrong). So, if you want to see how Colton Herta does in F2 this year, then you will need F1TV.
 
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