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ST Guy said:
You have no idea, but i will explain a little.

She was in the electronics sales business where regular partying was the norm back in the 1980’s. Apparently she did a lot of cocaine and became a cocaine addict. She also became an alcoholic. Both unknown to me. One night, while partying, she had sex with some guy. If she had told me then, we might have worked it out. But she kept it as a secret which ate at her. That led to her having sex with lots of guys while we were married. When she finally told me, she was already engaged to another guy. Turned out he was her cocaine dealer. All this while we were still married.

She went further downhill from there. She broke up with the cocaine dealer and tried to reconcile with me but she refused to stop dating other men. Then she hooked up with another guy who was a raging drunk who went on week long drunks. She broke up with him as well and made another feeble attempt at a reconciliation with me. Seems she was discovering that good men are hard to find. Then she married yet another guy who lied about his background and so insulted my friends that he was thrown out of my friend’s home. She had his child anyway and not long after, divorced him.

I could go on…..

I was always supportive of her during our marriage and she lacked for nothing in any way. And I was always loved by her family and considered a member of her family, even many years after.

In short she became a slut.
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That was the thing about cocaine in the 80's, I was shocked and surprised at how many women would spread their legs for a few lines. The term cocaine slut was an apt term.

I was dating one woman and a guy from my high school came up to me and took me aside, he told me that I didn't need to spend all of the money on meals because she'd give it up for a few lines. Needless to say, last time I went out with her.
 
ST Guy said:
I have moved on. Many years ago. But it remains part of my history.

And according to various dictionaries, she became a slut. I tend to use words accurately.
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Whatever dude, the fact that you can't get over it and you keep shit-talking her here is sad. Good luck.
 
Thank you for your good luck.

And I hope you never experience anything like what I experienced. It completely devastated me.

And just because I bring it up from time to time, that doesn't mean I'm not over it. But once done, one can never forget. It's a fool's folly to think one can forget. One thing that helps me is thinking of my second wife. I remember her love, her humor, her willingness to be my life partner. I'm surrounded by her every day in my home. From the suggestions she made to our remodel to all the art and things she chose to decorate our home with. She was a joy in my life. And I'm so sorry that Alzheimers took her too soon.

May you have the same kind of happiness I found with my second wife.
 
Climber said:
When I was younger, there was the pervading thought that having kids continues your genes and somehow gives you some form of immortality or at least a continuation of some part of you..

I'm not sure where that idea came from, but it was pretty common back in the 60's and 70's.

That seems to have gone away, for the most part, sometime since those days.
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Nah, it's alive and well with Musk
 
We have one son, who is 35 now. Un fucking believable, where did those years go? I still remember the day he took his first breath. We never actively tried to have kids but hey, it worked out with him. My wife became pregnant a second time a year or so later but the fetus was lost in the first trimester. Our son was a high risk pregnancy for her, so perhaps it is not surprising the second didn't work out. His birth was probably the happiest day of my life; the loss of our second was the worst.
 
Climber said:
When I was younger, there was the pervading thought that having kids continues your genes and somehow gives you some form of immortality or at least a continuation of some part of you..

I'm not sure where that idea came from, but it was pretty common back in the 60's and 70's.

That seems to have gone away, for the most part, sometime since those days.
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if that’s what my parents were thinking when they had me, they seriously miscalculated.
 
Abacinator said:
The fact that you keep disparaging her here strongly suggests you haven't moved on.
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ST Guy - I'm no psychologist but it sounds like unresolved trauma that you're still trying to process. I agree that your first wife was horrible, but when you bring up the same issue again and again...
I'm afraid you aren't going to get any good answers on this forum on how to deal with the damage she caused so perhaps seeking professional help may be good.
I'm saying this as someone who enjoys your posts and wishes the best for you.
 
Climber said:
I was dating one woman and a guy from my high school came up to me and took me aside, he told me that I didn't need to spend all of the money on meals because she'd give it up for a few lines. Needless to say, last time I went out with her.
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So "a guy from your high school" tells you a rumor about her, and you never go out with her again? :laughing
I'd be embarrassed to tell that story.
I guess it's a good thing he was there to guide you along... or she may have "deceived" you into thinking she was someone that you liked. :rolleyes

Maybe you and STguy should start your own "slut shaming" thread.
 
Rtmac said:
So "a guy from your high school" tells you a rumor about her, and you never go out with her again? :laughing
I'd be embarrassed to tell that story.
I guess it's a good thing he was there to guide you along... or she may have "deceived" you into thinking she was someone that you liked. :rolleyes

Maybe you and STguy should start your own "slut shaming" thread.
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He was one of the people who got ass with a few lines.

STD's were pretty rpevalent back then and why would I date a woman would would give it up so easily?

Sorry, you may trust somebody like that, I have more respect for myself and less trust for people like that.

Seems like you're on a kick of telling people how they should act morally. What are your qualifications for holding such a moral high ground?
 
Greenmonster:

Thanks for that. But I don’t believe I will ever truly get over it. I can, however, learn to live with it again. What brought it all up again was learning recently that she lied to all her family and friends about why we broke up. She blamed me and hid the truth. I had put the matter to bed many years ago. Now I have to do it again.

And I apologize to BARF for my bringing my troubles to light on this fine forum. I’ve learned, now, that expecting a little sympathy for my personal tragedies on a motorcycle forum was mostly misguided.

Cheers to all!
 
Climber said:
He was one of the people who got ass with a few lines.

STD's were pretty rpevalent back then and why would I date a woman would would give it up so easily?

Sorry, you may trust somebody like that, I have more respect for myself and less trust for people like that.

Seems like you're on a kick of telling people how they should act morally. What are your qualifications for holding such a moral high ground?
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Holy shit dude, you're throwing around a lot of accusations and then telling other people that THEY are being high and mighty. You are incredibly out of line right now.
 
ST Guy said:
Greenmonster:

Thanks for that. But I don’t believe I will ever truly get over it. I can, however, learn to live with it again. What brought it all up again was learning recently that she lied to all her family and friends about why we broke up. She blamed me and hid the truth. I had put the matter to bed many years ago. Now I have to do it again.

And I apologize to BARF for my bringing my troubles to light on this fine forum. I’ve learned, now, that expecting a little sympathy for my personal tragedies on a motorcycle forum was mostly misguided.

Cheers to all!
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Shut up Shut up Shut up. Jesus fucking Christ dude. Shut up about your goddam ex-wife.

We know. You have completely and utterly fucking ruined multiple decent and important threads here with your diatribe about your ex-wife. And to your last point, we had sympathy the first time. We even had it the second and third time. But when you came into the thread made to support women and completely shit all over it with this exact same story, that sympathy waned. When you came in and took a massive steaming dump all over the mental health thread with this exact same story, that sympathy dried up and the thread was closed. Closed for one reason, you and your inability to move on.

Move the fuck on.
 
Just so y’all know, I have never shit talked about anyone unless it was well deserved. And fortunately, so far in my life, only one person deserved it.
 
I'm happy to take the ban for this. Someone needed to say it, I'll take one for the team.

And for the record, I have nothing against you STGuy. I know you went through some shit. But this is ridiculous.
 
All I wanted in the mental health thread was an explanation of how I minimized anyone. I never got that explanation.
 
STGuy, listen to your audience.
and remember that holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.
 
Brokenlink, you don’t need a ban. But perhaps some compassion might be more useful.
 
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