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Where do we post political memes?

Mike, I’m not around here much any more and have little desire to interact with people on anything of substance, but I stumbled onto this thread and am a bit dismayed that people seem to want to die on hills like this. It’s a motorcycle forum that happens to allow a lot of off topic leeway. It is owned and funded privately and there are rules, some of which are open to interpretation, by design, for reasons Enchanter described. In the past, when things like the definition of a meme are written like a machine part specification, inevitably, someone makes it a game to toe the line and cause issues.

As a non-moderator, let me offer a definition that should serve as a common sense weathervane:

“A political meme is a piece of digital media—typically an image, short video clip, GIF, or altered piece of text—that uses humor, satire, ironies, or pop culture references to communicate a political opinion, mock an opponent, or comment on public policy and current events.”

That’s a response from a GPT tool and it seems to describe the range of things most of us would consider memes. I’d guess you have a sense for when something might be questionable. You get to decide what to do in that case; color inside the lines, or take the chance that the crayon is going to scribble on the tablecloth. It’s not the end of the world either way. What makes it seem more like that is how one chooses to react.

An unmoderated forum soon turns into a place inhabited by five assholes who ran everyone else off. Moderation is not always perfect, but this group tries hard to be fair. I hope you can see that.
 
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Also, I regularly wear speedos and cycling shorts. If you want to try and put me down or diminish my masculinity, cap on those. They are tight, black and hug my ass really well. They are even a bit shiny.

Why would you bring up panties?
Where did you see me use the word when replying to you?
 
IT is unless you remember the meme wars of PolSink 1 and how ugly it was.
It was fucking ugly and got disgusting actually.

The only point for these is to give people who agree with you a giggle and poke at those that don't.
 
Mike, I’m not around here much any more and have little desire to interact with people on anything of substance, but I stumbled onto this thread and am a bit dismayed that people seem to want to die on hills like this. It’s a motorcycle forum that happens to allow a lot of off topic leeway. It is owned and funded privately and there are rules, some of which are open to interpretation, by design, for reasons Enchanter described. In the past, when things like the definition of a meme are written like a machine part specification, inevitably, someone makes it a game to toe the line and cause issues.

As a non-moderator, let me offer a definition that should serve as a common sense weathervane:

“A political meme is a piece of digital media—typically an image, short video clip, GIF, or altered piece of text—that uses humor, satire, ironies, or pop culture references to communicate a political opinion, mock an opponent, or comment on public policy and current events.”

That’s a response from a GPT tool and it seems to describe the range of things most of us would consider memes. I’d guess you have a sense for when something might be questionable. You get to decide what to do in that case; color inside the lines, or take the chance that the crayon is going to scribble on the tablecloth. It’s not the end of the world either way. What makes it seem more like that is how one chooses to react.

An unmoderated forum soon turns into a place inhabited by five assholes who ran everyone else off. Moderation is not always perfect, but this group tries hard to be fair. I hope you can see that.

It's kind of crazy to see folks dying on the hill of "I decline to define a meme" and then go "yeah that ChatGPT definition is great!" and just generally fan the flames of ambiguity, while disparaging members for asking for clarity- when the entirety of the effort is putting a wet blanket on free conversation in the PS, and the lack of clarity basically discourages folks from posting media content that the mods might disagree with- because who knows, this might be "too close to being a meme" and I might get a strike for it.

Love you guys, but dang. All it takes is doing the job of drawing the line in the sand you don't want us to cross, instead of blaming members for somehow abusing you by asking for clarity. If you want to exercise authority without creating fear, you have to be clear about what prompts the response by authority. I don't care to earn a ban because I posted an image that a mod didn't like, decided to call a meme, and subsequently give me a holiday from BARF.

FFS, man. You have power, you have to take care in how you exercise that power.
 
It's kind of crazy to see folks dying on the hill of "I decline to define a meme" and then go "yeah that ChatGPT definition is great!" and just generally fan the flames of ambiguity, while disparaging members for asking for clarity- when the entirety of the effort is putting a wet blanket on free conversation in the PS, and the lack of clarity basically discourages folks from posting media content that the mods might disagree with- because who knows, this might be "too close to being a meme" and I might get a strike for it.

Love you guys, but dang. All it takes is doing the job of drawing the line in the sand you don't want us to cross, instead of blaming members for somehow abusing you by asking for clarity. If you want to exercise authority without creating fear, you have to be clear about what prompts the response by authority. I don't care to earn a ban because I posted an image that a mod didn't like, decided to call a meme, and subsequently give me a holiday from BARF.

FFS, man. You have power, you have to take care in how you exercise that power.
This is a well written and thoughtful reply. I need to take some time to digest it. I'm not saying that I'll change my mind about defining a meme, but this post as encouraged me to pause and reconsider. Maybe there is a way to meet somewhere in the middle.

I'm busy at work preparing for an audit by the feds, and family life has ramped up too. I honestly plan to come back to this, but feel free to send a reminder if I fail to return in a reasonable amount of time.
 
This is a well written and thoughtful reply. I need to take some time to digest it. I'm not saying that I'll change my mind about defining a meme, but this post as encouraged me to pause and reconsider. Maybe there is a way to meet somewhere in the middle.

I'm busy at work preparing for an audit by the feds, and family life has ramped up too. I honestly plan to come back to this, but feel free to send a reminder if I fail to return in a reasonable amount of time.
Thanks, brother. Good luck with the audit, and much love to you (and everyone.) <3
 
Clearly we are at an impasse and my “panties” are the problem.
Hey, those are my panties. :laughing

@MC BumSlap suspended for posting a hilarious, non-political gif? Apparently a gif is almost a meme. :facepalm

"The main difference is that a GIF is a file format (Graphics Interchange Format) used for short, looping, soundless animations, while a meme is a cultural idea, joke, or concept that spreads from person to person online."
 
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I'm not saying that I'll change my mind about defining a meme, but this post as encouraged me to pause and reconsider. Maybe there is a way to meet somewhere in the middle.
Fair enough. :thumbup
 
Hey, those are my panties. :laughing

@MC BumSlap suspended for posting a hilarious, non-political gif? Apparently a gif is almost a meme. :facepalm

"The main difference is that a GIF is a file format (Graphics Interchange Format) used for short, looping, soundless animations, while a meme is a cultural idea, joke, or concept that spreads from person to person online."
The googles is your friend:
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Had this been posted in reference to a blue car / motorcycle / sky / or berry, it wouldn't have been a blue-blip on the radar. Talking blue or red in a political thread, makes this pop-up on the radar.

Context matters.
 
Had this been posted in reference to a blue car / motorcycle / sky / or berry, it wouldn't have been a blue-blip on the radar. Talking blue or red in a political thread, makes this pop-up on the radar.

Context matters.
That's what he got banned for? :wtf
 
Hey, those are my panties. :laughing

@MC BumSlap suspended for posting a hilarious, non-political gif? Apparently a gif is almost a meme. :facepalm

"The main difference is that a GIF is a file format (Graphics Interchange Format) used for short, looping, soundless animations, while a meme is a cultural idea, joke, or concept that spreads from person to person online."
In addition, this post is a perfect example of why this thread is going round and round on the definition of meme, let alone what a political meme is.
 
That's what he got banned for? :wtf
Are you also of the opinion that that is a) not a meme, and b) not a political commentary?
 
Are you also of the opinion that that is a) not a meme, and b) not a political commentary?
I thought it was a stupid gif, sure, but did not strike me as political.

I actually didn't "get it."
 
You guys missed this (except) a couple people.
McBum posted this immediately after the blue dude.

After a comment he removed it.

<Image removed - point made>

A lot of arm chair modding going on here.
 
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In addition, this post is a perfect example of why this thread is going round and round on the definition of meme, let alone what a political meme is.
Yes, it is a perfect example.
Whatever. Do what you do... but I'm not buying it, and I think you have your own agenda.
And yeah, I already know that what I think doesn't matter.
 
You guys missed this (except) a couple people.
McBum posted this immediately after the blue dude.

After a comment he removed it.
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A lot of arm chair modding going on here.
Yeah, that one was funny.

Could have just used the words and had similar effect.
 
Yes, it is a perfect example.
Whatever. Do what you do... but I'm not buying it, and I think you have your own agenda.
And yeah, I already know that what I think doesn't matter.
My "agenda" is simply zero tolerance for memes. No more, no less. I don't want to spend time trying to define if it is or isn't a meme, or if it is or isn't a political meme.

What is my agenda? Let's be clear and flush it out. Please tell me what you think my agenda is.
 
Yes, it is a perfect example.
Whatever. Do what you do... but I'm not buying it, and I think you have your own agenda.
And yeah, I already know that what I think doesn't matter.
I think you have an agenda as well. A few others do to.. they want to have their memes so they can make fun of the situation and enjoy a laugh. I honestly understand that but we need to apply these decisions as fairly as possible and I guarantee as soon as someone posts something that you don't agree is funny you will speak up.

Do you recall the meme wars here? I was from the PolSink 1. That was truly ugly and time consuming. It will not happen again.
 
Sorry to set off a shitstorm for you folks...

A meme that contains a political theme whether an idea, behavior, style, or piece of media—such as a humorous image, video, text, or soundbite.
In the other thread, you said if it offends D or R. And similarly here, "If it is making fun of either side it qualifies."

I wasn't seeking a definition, but perhaps I subconsciously was. I've just taken that it's a political meme if it has anything to do with our governmental system. Like an image of a fire truck with some comment that might be correlated to political activity, like perhaps something with a Union deal, for example. Also, a plain picture of a politician has qualified as P-Trap fodder, such as one of Trump from his Apprentice show. I saw one of Kamala on the stage with flags in the other thread where I'm getting ridiculed, but it's OK this time I guess because there is really no red or blue context in the discussion.

Every meme is banned. Budman gave us 2 if not 3 chances. We had a Political Meme thread with rules to behave. I love memes but I have to agree with Budman. I wish we could enjoy a good meme and move on if we don't agree, but that has never happened.
I did not make the highlight but if I read it like I think it was meant, every meme is banned in the poli-sci forum, and that is easy and clear, and one reason I made this topic. I was not part of the fun days when you tried political meme thread. Too bad, sounds like a few bad apples killed it. I bet they were getting out-played.

And I get that we do not want political memes anywhere.

But, I've seen some memes be called political when they did not seem to come across that way. But without any definition or guideline it's tuff. So I wanted to post this but since it was already clear no memes at all in poli-sci, I wasn't sure if this would be considered an infractional meme.

And now as I think about it, all one needs to do is peruse the infractional memes in the P-Trap.

So just for fun, and because this is another reason why I made this thread, I wanted to know how this would be received.

And note, I consider this a political meme, but I also think it is not offensive to any party, their color, or any political viewpoint. It has reference to a fun, viral activity that I'm sure most of you actively participated in. So here it is.


Warning - potentially political content:


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And if I get a holiday for that, I'll take it a mod got butt hurt for getting rick tolled [\spoiler]

:laughing
 
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