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2026/2027 NFL Thread

I can think of some first graders that could probably do that job better also.
:laughing No doubt, no doubt. To be fair, I do not think it is all the GM's fault.

I am pretty sure they have the notoriously meddling Owners that are typical of the Raiders, Cardinals, Jaguars, or any of the other long standing terrible franchises unable to turn it around for decades on end.

Gotta let the GM's GM.
 
:laughing No doubt, no doubt. To be fair, I do not think it is all the GM's fault.

I am pretty sure they have the notoriously meddling Owners that are typical of the Raiders, Cardinals, Jaguars, or any of the other long standing terrible franchises unable to turn it around for decades on end.

Gotta let the GM's GM.
Too true. I was hoping once ownership changed for the Raiders then maybe they would break out of the rut, but it seems like the son is intent on carrying out the legacy of the father. I hope they don't break their new QB1 of the future too soon. I kind of feel sorry for him but if he turns around the Raiders he may just be the GOAT. :laughing
 
Feel the opposite. Mark seems to be stepping back more and letting the adults in the room make more of the decisions.
 
it does seem that way a little bit now but for the last few years seemed like same old same old.

Bringing Spytek and Carroll at the same time seemed to be a decent thing. However, I didn't think their dynamic would really work as their mentalities are just different.

Spytek bringing in his own guys and letting Kubiak get who he needs and the players so far...well....no where to go but up. Brady doing some consulting as part owner...only time will tell.

Raiders are basically on year 23 of a 3-year plan. If they can get 6-8 wins this year, that is progress.
 
Too true. I was hoping once ownership changed for the Raiders then maybe they would break out of the rut, but it seems like the son is intent on carrying out the legacy of the father. I hope they don't break their new QB1 of the future too soon. I kind of feel sorry for him but if he turns around the Raiders he may just be the GOAT. :laughing

I don't know man, the Davis family is certainly a curse hard to live down, but now that Brady is an owner it REALLY seems like they are taking real grown up football steps to succeed.
 
Bringing Spytek and Carroll at the same time seemed to be a decent thing. However, I didn't think their dynamic would really work as their mentalities are just different.

Spytek bringing in his own guys and letting Kubiak get who he needs and the players so far...well....no where to go but up. Brady doing some consulting as part owner...only time will tell.

Raiders are basically on year 23 of a 3-year plan. If they can get 6-8 wins this year, that is progress.
Year 40. They are in year 40 of a 3 year plan.
 
Year 40. They are in year 40 of a 3 year plan.
Not Really. I've been with the Raiders since the 60s and Al Davis knew football. Up through the 90s even early 2000s there were some good teams.
BUT sometime in the 2000s Al had lost it. The game changed and he didn't change with it. And then he passed away.
In fairness to Mark Davis, he never tried to say he was a football guy. I think he tried to follow advice, but obviously, he changed with the wind and with whoever got his ear. And as the Raiders never did much with Derek Carr as QB no continuity was ever pursued. Carr was a serviceable QB, but never really had a big supporting cast due to bad drafting for over a decade now.
Hopefully, they can have a couple of decent drafts, and regain greatness.
 
Not Really. I've been with the Raiders since the 60s and Al Davis knew football. Up through the 90s even early 2000s there were some good teams.
BUT sometime in the 2000s Al had lost it. The game changed and he didn't change with it. And then he passed away.
In fairness to Mark Davis, he never tried to say he was a football guy. I think he tried to follow advice, but obviously, he changed with the wind and with whoever got his ear. And as the Raiders never did much with Derek Carr as QB no continuity was ever pursued. Carr was a serviceable QB, but never really had a big supporting cast due to bad drafting for over a decade now.
Hopefully, they can have a couple of decent drafts, and regain greatness.

No Al Davis was a fucking football disaster. A skill he was VERY good at was he knew PEOPLE. That skill carried him and changed the game forever. He smelled one of the greatest Coaches ever in John Madden, who was a football genius that built the limited period the Raiders were really good.

A key to that success is that Al Davis could smell a good player in disaster humans that everyone else had given up on. Guys like Matuszak, Alzado, Plunkett, so many reclamation projects that other teams had deemed defective, usually for personality reasons, and he picked them up and gave them something to prove, the chip on the shoulder mentality that focused talent that was usually rather unhinged when not on the field (and sometimes on).

When my cousin, Greyson, played for them, Al would still come by and see the guys and they all felt fired up and inspired by him, even though it was near the end. He even got a fan base that despite completely abandoning their City and Culture, multiple times, still wanted to stand by the Team.

That cult of personality is an amazing accomplishment. When I was in San Diego a year ago for work, the local news was clowing the Chargers so hard. San Diego people fucking HATE them for moving.

However, the modern Free Agent era in the early 90's effectively killed his People edge. In modern free agency, no one cares anymore if somebody may be able to play some ball, but has a defective personality. Now it is 100% play analysis, all numbers, no real interest in character. While there are some old school conservative culture Teams like the Packers and Giants (NYG has never even had a Cheerleader Squad) who tend to get rid of personality problems, mostly it just became about Agents selling the potential for talent, regardless of behavior.

That change killed Davis' edge of finding unsigned diamonds in the rough. With a few notable exceptions like Ken Stabler, their draft history has typically been very bad to point of absurdity (Marinovich, JaCarcus, Lando McClain, etc), which meant they were unable to build a teamfor almost 40 years.

Having the GOAT as an owner now really seems to be changing it though. Taking Cousins to teach Mendoza, bringing Linderbuam and drafting T-Zuhn, these moves seems like tried and true proven strategy that works, not the Raider Way, of doing high risk splashy shit that usually gets a lot of press, sells Jerseys, and fails spectatcularly, all flash and no meat.

I will continue to sincerely hope the Las Vegas Raiders find great success in their representation of the great State of Nevada, and prove with a superbowl ring that the only thing holding them back was the burden of the insurmountable Davis Family Legacy and a home in the East Bay. They seem well under way and I wish them well.
 
Wow, Aldon Smith passed away. Only 36.
 
So the fake turf NFL stadiums which have been grassed over for the World Cup will revert back to the turf they had before which is cheaper to maintain by the owners and hated by the players.

That sucks.
 
Wow, Aldon Smith passed away. Only 36.
It is too bad, but the amazing thing is that someone that severely mentally ill was ever able to play as many years as he did in the NFL.

My assumption is that his diagnosis was something that tends to set in during the late teens/early 20's that allowed him to go through most of the childhood training of his natural physical ability before developing his behavior defects.

A rather high profile case for the failure of the social safety net in America.
 
*ahem* Bill Walsh started his coaching career with, guess who? The Oakland Raiders.
It was Al Davis that suggested Eddie D get Walsh from Stanford and make him the head coach of the 49ers.
You're welcome.
 
So the gambling junkie B Sorsby has declared for the supplemental draft. I'm really glad he wont be playing in the NCAA this season despite Texas Tech's shameful attempt to make that happen. I dont think any NFL team will pick him, with echoes of Art Schlichter still reverberating around the halls of every front office, but maybe I'm wrong and someone will be more stupid than cautious. My bet, pun intended, is that this addict will end up in the UFL or CFL.
 
I’m guessing online gambling is legal, because of all the ads I see, and that he has the money. If it’s on his games no bueno but i see this as a future ncaa issue.
 
I’m guessing online gambling is legal, because of all the ads I see, and that he has the money. If it’s on his games no bueno but i see this as a future ncaa issue.
NCAA athletes are prohibited from placing bets on any sport, professional or amateur, on-line, through bookies or in person, regardless of the legality of the activity in the state they are in. This is definitely just the beginning of a massive problem for the NCAA, and pro sports will soon be inundated with the issue as well.
 
Wanna bash Al, read this first.

The book came out in 1986 yeah? a little hard for me to take a book seriously that uses the word decline in characterizing the NFL, the literal most profitable sport in the US and the 2nd most profitable sport in the world only behind soccer. It's quite possible that in 20 years the NFL will be the number one sport in the world The NFL is making a huge effort to globalize it's brand, and the game is a perfect vehicle for tv through the lens of advertisers.
 
the book describes the 60s and 70s, the ownership changes, team moves and the battle between Davis and Rozelle. How the NFL changed into what we have comes from those times and Al Davis was a key player in shaping the game we watch today.
What's that saying, don't judge a book by it's cover.
 
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