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Tesla Model 3: End of the Internal-Combustion Engine?

Well, Tesla isn't going anywhere soon.

Profitable in Q3.

Trial production started at Shanghai factory.

97K vehicles delivered.

Model Y production moved up to summer 2020.
 
Pickup truck to be officially announced in a couple weeks rumor has it.

< $50,000 (snort)
4WD (motor for each wheel)
500 mile range (can probably hit this, truck can hold more batteries)
300,000 lb towing capacity (WHAT?!)


No word on 0-60 time and I’m sure it’ll be fugly as hell, but damn. Elon’s smokin’ Snoop’s finest green apparently.
 
aminalmutha said:
Well the X doors just keep getting dumber.
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Hm. I guess also the S doors/door-handles were also as dumb as they always seemed to be (to non-teslaretti)

.. hint:.. you can't open them.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/tesla-fatal-crash-lawsuit-florida-door-handle-14556744.php

alleges a responding police officer and bystanders were unable to open the car door because its handles were retracted.
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We'll see if this one sticks; and what secret OTA hidden software changes will that introduce.. (just like for the ice-breaker)
 
According to the article, Dr Awan's family didn't seem to think he was worth much. Only seeking $15k in restitution :shocker
 
mrzuzzo said:
Well, Tesla isn't going anywhere soon.

Profitable in Q3.

Trial production started at Shanghai factory.

97K vehicles delivered.

Model Y production moved up to summer 2020.
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Tesla's not going out of business, but it's valuation isn't going anywhere unless they start showing much higher growth. They're priced like a growth company and they're not growing. One quarter of profitability driven almost entirely by layoffs is nothing more than a brief chance for the market to overreact, this time in a positive direction. Tesla has to knock the cover off of the ball in China and the Model Y has to sell even better than the Model 3 in order for Tesla to do anything more than continue to flounder along.
 
Different fan renders of what they think the Tesla pickup truck will look like. I'm a fan of the first one, but not the others.

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3.
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Also under debate is what size bed the pickup will have. 6'4" is the "standard" length, 5'7" is common though for full size crew cabs.

Considering a motorcycle doesn't fit straight-in for either of those lengths and you'd have to go diagonal or leave the tailgate down, I'd be fine with the shorter bed portrayed in the first render. And TBH I think it'd be a home run if Tesla makes it.

American-made, massive torque, free/cheap to drive as much as you want, all the luxury features, you can do your Tahoe trips for snowboarding just fine, camping and dirt just fine, etc. These matter to a lot of pickup owners.

Wouldn't really work for overlanding or more serious offroading, but it's not meant to anyway and 99% of pickup truck owners don't bother with those either.
 
Given Tesla's derivative approach to the styling of the Model 3 and Model Y, I expect that the pickup will just look like a bigger Model X with a truck bed attached. I don't expect some big super rugged looking truck, particularly if the goal is range and speed.
 
#3 or the Ridgeline look could work and probably is closer to the market for a Tesla truck than those off-road wannabes.
 
I kind of like 3, but I am also a nerd and it reminds me of Cylons. Haha
 
NorCalAthlete said:
Also under debate is what size bed the pickup will have. 6'4" is the "standard" length, 5'7" is common though for full size crew cabs.

Considering a motorcycle doesn't fit straight-in for either of those lengths and you'd have to go diagonal or leave the tailgate down, I'd be fine with the shorter bed portrayed in the first render. And TBH I think it'd be a home run if Tesla makes it.

American-made, massive torque, free/cheap to drive as much as you want, all the luxury features, you can do your Tahoe trips for snowboarding just fine, camping and dirt just fine, etc. These matter to a lot of pickup owners.

Wouldn't really work for overlanding or more serious offroading, but it's not meant to anyway and 99% of pickup truck owners don't bother with those either.
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I've been stopped for 5 hours on 80 on the way to ski in Tahoe. I wonder how fast the battery goes down to keep the cabin warm on a Tesla and how the heater effects the range.
 
Climber said:
I've been stopped for 5 hours on 80 on the way to ski in Tahoe. I wonder how fast the battery goes down to keep the cabin warm on a Tesla and how the heater effects the range.
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Accessories include candles and matches.

Probably wouldn’t be too difficult to include some sort of propane heater option for such instances. That might be a totally taboo feature for an electric car though.
 
Climber said:
I've been stopped for 5 hours on 80 on the way to ski in Tahoe. I wonder how fast the battery goes down to keep the cabin warm on a Tesla and how the heater effects the range.
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From my (limited) understanding (maybe someone who owns an S and has taken it up to Tahoe can chime in?), it barely takes anything to keep the cabin / seat heaters warm. While I can see it being a potential issue on the way up if you left home in Morgan Hill with half a charge / tank, I honestly doubt it would be an issue - certainly less than the cost of fuel for an ICE idling in 80 traffic. Given that resorts have installed Tesla supercharging stations, and the stations are generally in prime parking locations, I'd say you'd be fine even if you ended up using 3/4 of a tank charge just to get up the mountain. And on the way down, it's regenerative braking all the way. According to a few folks on the Tesla forums it looks like you actually gain about 60-70 miles worth of battery just on the way back from Tahoe in between the top and Auburn. So even leaving Tahoe with 1/4 of a tank/battery would leave you enough to get to a supercharger in Sacramento or even San Jose maybe.
 
It's not cold enough in California, even in Tahoe, to make battery freezing a big issue.

For whatever reason, Teslas use a resistance heater instead of a heat pump, so yeah if you have heat on full blast, your battery will last a bit less.
 
easter bunny said:
It's for tech bros to one-up the Taco Truck crowd. Maybe an occasional trip to Ikea. It's not meant to be a truck.
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I wouldn't be so certain about that. I think Musk is targeting this truck at people who want massive torque to tow heavy cargo. If all it is in the end is an electrified Ridgeline, that'll be disappointing.

I expect pretty awesome performance given what Musk has said already, but I don't think it's going to have Blade Runner type out there styling. I think it'll be reasonably consistent with the rest of the lineup.
 
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