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transporting a handgun

i am of legal age, no felonies, can go to any store and buy a handgun legally.


can i open carry my dad's registered legal handgun?

can i transport it to a shooting range in a locked container with ammo seperated?

how would i go about transporting the gun on my bike? would a trigger lock on it in my backpack work? with ammo stored in a side pocket?
 
the donald said:
can i open carry my dad's registered legal handgun? If you want to be pronned out and have your rights violated.

can i transport it to a shooting range in a locked container with ammo seperated? Yes

how would i go about transporting the gun on my bike? would a trigger lock on it in my backpack work? with ammo stored in a side pocket? No, handgun has to be in the locked container. Yes, if you can put a padlock on backpack's zipper
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Go to www.calguns.net and use search.
 
T-1 Thunder said:
I just spoke to a sheriffs officer about this. It appears this may fall under discretion, as he said that personally if he pulled me over and I have an unloaded handgun in my locked glovebox, he would not push the issue or cite/arrest me.

However, not all cops are the same. A lot of times, interpretation goes all the way to the courtroom. So, to play it safe, I agree - NO glovebox. However, my phone call just now proves that this is not 100% absolute. ;)
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Discretion will always be different from officer to officer. Keep in mind though that a majority of the Sheriff's in the Sierra Mountains will have a different reaction to a gun in your vehicle then Municipal Cops here in the Bay Area where violent crimes with firearms occur more often.
 
RickyHayden said:
Discretion will always be different from officer to officer. Keep in mind though that a majority of the Sheriff's in the Sierra Mountains will have a different reaction to a gun in your vehicle then Municipal Cops here in the Bay Area where violent crimes with firearms occur more often.
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And discretion does not mean the law. Some officers pull you over and give you a ticket for 66 mph, while another may wave as you go by at 70. The speed limit is still 65.

In this case, the law specifically states that the glove box is not legal.
 
I had one odd moment. Myself and 2 friends got pulled over on 101 for doing 80mph. My insurance card had worked its way out of my wallet and under the seat (well I lost the one in my wallet and knew the second copy was under the seat). My two buddies were sitting on the tailgate of the truck. It was a female officer. The 3 of us must have been somewhat intimidating. She was a real hard ass about the speeding but really nonchalant about everything else. I had a rifle under the seat and ammunition in the glove box. I was really nervous that she might ask to assist in finding the card. Nobody ever asked if I had a weapon but at what point should I have mentioned I did? We were on our way to Cow Mountain to do some dirt biking and gun shootin'.
 
You can put a trigger lock on your handgun and then put the ammo with the magazine in the zipper part of your back pack that is locked with a lock or a separate lock container. But make sure there is no ammo in the magazine.

I wonder when the Circuit courts going to make us take our handguns apart into separate lock containers and reassemble them when we get to the range.
 
evo72man said:
You can put a trigger lock on your handgun and then put the ammo with the magazine in the zipper part of your back pack that is locked with a lock or a separate lock container. But make sure there is no ammo in the magazine.

I wonder when the Circuit courts going to make us take our handguns apart into separate lock containers and reassemble them when we get to the range.
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If I understood your description correctly you would have your gun with a trigger lock on it but in an unlocked part of the backpack. If so, that would be a felony. You don't need a trigger lock on your handgun to transport it but you do need it in a locked container as has been gone over multiple times in this thread.
Also your ammo does NOT have to be locked up at all. All of the laws are quoted much earlier in this thread if you would like to browse.
 
Ezekiel said:
If I understood your description correctly you would have your gun with a trigger lock on it but in an unlocked part of the backpack. If so, that would be a felony. You don't need a trigger lock on your handgun to transport it but you do need it in a locked container as has been gone over multiple times in this thread.
Also your ammo does NOT have to be locked up at all. All of the laws are quoted much earlier in this thread if you would like to browse.
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Yes your firearm must be in a locked container in backpack.
 
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evo72man said:
You can put a trigger lock on your handgun and then put the ammo with the magazine in the zipper part of your back pack that is locked with a lock or a separate lock container. But make sure there is no ammo in the magazine.

I wonder when the Circuit courts going to make us take our handguns apart into separate lock containers and reassemble them when we get to the range.
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Why would you say the ammo can't be in the magazine if the mag is not in the gun?:wtf
(I always have mags fully loaded with ammo - 100% of the time)
 
evo72man said:
Yes your firearm must be in a locked container in backpack.
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Yup. Or, if possible, you can lock the backpack itself.
In my case I just lock the two zippers together so my backpack can't be unzipped.
 
T-1 Thunder said:
Why would you say the ammo can't be in the magazine if the mag is not in the gun?:wtf
(I always have mags fully loaded with ammo - 100% of the time)
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According to PC 12025 in regards to motorcycles. This is a grey area, but if you want to test the nice Officers, this is a free county.

You may transport the firearm for any lawful purpose from a place where you may legally possess and carry it, to any other place where you may legally possess and carry it. In addition, the firearm must be unloaded and
neither the firearm nor any ammunition can be readily or directly accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm or ammunition must be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
 
evo72man said:
According to PC 12025 in regards to motorcycles. This is a grey area, but if you want to test the nice Officers, this is a free county.

You may transport the firearm for any lawful purpose from a place where you may legally possess and carry it, to any other place where you may legally possess and carry it. In addition, the firearm must be unloaded and
neither the firearm nor any ammunition can be readily or directly accessible from the passenger compartment. If the vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm or ammunition must be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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Close except you keep mentioning ammunition along with the handgun. No. The above rules apply to the handgun. The ammunition does NOT need to be locked up. You can have ammo sitting on the seat next to you, hell, you can have it spread across your lap and be playing with it in your hands...just don't have any loaded in your handgun which is in a proper locked container as stated above.
 
Ezekiel said:
Close except you keep mentioning ammunition along with the handgun. No. The above rules apply to the handgun. The ammunition does NOT need to be locked up. You can have ammo sitting on the seat next to you, hell, you can have it spread across your lap and be playing with it in your hands...just don't have any loaded in your handgun which is in a proper locked container as stated above.
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I took that quote directly out from this article written by a gun attorney, it is word for word. But I guess you know more than a gun attorney.
http://www.gunlaw.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=15
 
Here's a link which cuts right to the chase on all of this stuff. Maybe it's been put up already in this thread, maybe not?
CalGuns Wiki on Transportation


evo72man said:
I took that quote directly out from this article written by a gun attorney, it is word for word. But I guess you know more than a gun attorney.
http://www.gunlaw.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=15
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I don't know more than a gun attorney, I just have better reading comprehension than you. Let's read the entire paragraph you are trying to quote, bold emphasis added by me:
The only departure I will make from this discussion of California law is to mention that if you meet certain requirements
under Federal law, you may legally transport a firearm by motor vehicle during interstate travel despite state or local laws
to the contrary (2). You may transport the firearm for any lawful purpose from a place where you may legally possess and
carry it, to any other place where you may legally possess and carry it. In addition, the firearm must be unloaded and
neither the firearm nor any ammunition can be readily or directly accessible from the passenger compartment. If the
vehicle does not have a compartment separate from the passenger compartment, the firearm or ammunition must be in a
locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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So in the paragraph you cite, he is explaining federal law as it applies to interstate travel.
You took the one paragraph of the whole document where he specifically said he was deviating from California law.

Again, most folks have put up a lot of valuable links in the first page of this thread, all of the questions have been answered, correctly, by people other than yourself.
 
hmm. i am going to the range with my dad's numerous guns without him and his retired LEO ID. he only has 10+ round magazines, how (lack of a better term) big of a deal is it? if i transport it all legally, the magazines empty?
 
the donald said:
hmm. i am going to the range with my dad's numerous guns without him and his retired LEO ID. he only has 10+ round magazines, how (lack of a better term) big of a deal is it? if i transport it all legally, the magazines empty?
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Ahhhhh, it's alive!

I'm not sure I understand the question. It is not a big deal at all to possess legal guns and to transport them legally.
 
PC 12020 (a)(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes
to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or
offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-
capacity magazine.

so he can't loan them to you.
 
bojangle said:
Ahhhhh, it's alive!

I'm not sure I understand the question. It is not a big deal at all to possess legal guns and to transport them legally.
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well his .40 glock has a 13 round capacity and his 9mm has a 12 round capacity. and me not being a LEO, but going to a gun range with said magazines empty.
 
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